From james@sentman.com Thu Jul 22 21:53:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-XTensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 12192 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2004 21:53:18 -0000 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (205.152.59.68) by shed.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 2004 21:53:18 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.202] ([68.220.32.36]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net ESMTP <20040722215755.NXAF1721.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[10.0.1.202]> for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:57:55 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2E344A82-DC2A-11D8-9107-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: XTension XTension List From: James Sentman Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:57:52 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: [Xtensionlist] test test test X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:53:18 -0000 what is this going to? From james@sentman.com Thu Jul 22 22:06:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-XTensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 13095 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2004 22:06:26 -0000 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (205.152.59.68) by shed.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 2004 22:06:26 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.202] ([68.220.32.36]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net ESMTP <20040722221104.OCMK1721.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[10.0.1.202]> for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:11:04 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <04778FFE-DC2C-11D8-9107-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: XTension XTension List From: James Sentman Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:11:01 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: [Xtensionlist] test of the reply to address X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:06:33 -0000 This email is to see if the from address is now set to be the list properly From john@netmac.net Fri Jul 23 14:18:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 17654 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2004 14:18:14 -0000 Received: from da001d3262.dal-tx.osd.concentric.net (HELO MAIL.NETMAC.NET) (66.89.150.195) by shed.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2004 14:18:14 -0000 Received: from [66.89.150.200] (66.89.150.200) by MAIL.NETMAC.NET with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.1 demo) for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:01:39 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: xtensionlist@shed.com From: John Eriksen Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:23:22 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: [Xtensionlist] RE: Me thinkith... this stinkith X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:18:14 -0000 Well.... I taking this as a THE LIST SERVER CROAKED advisory 8-\ "Welcome to the XTensionlist@shed.com mailing list!" Mr Mikey.. you has my sympathies From michael@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com Fri Jul 23 14:31:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 20047 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2004 14:31:23 -0000 Received: from ms-smtp-05-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com (HELO ms-smtp-05.tampabay.rr.com) (65.32.5.135) by shed.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2004 14:31:23 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (72.172.8.67.cfl.rr.com [67.8.172.72]) i6NEaUCF008966 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:36:30 -0400 (EDT) From: michael To: Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:35:56 -0400 Message-Id: <20040723143557.23215@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail 3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: RE: Me thinkith... this stinkith X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:31:23 -0000 Hi John, I'm not sure where that subject came from ! Nor why there is that {Xtensionlist] subject prefix... And I hope I just rid finally of that Footer ... When did you get that message ? I hope that things will start to get better very soon now !! michael John said : >Well.... I taking this as a THE LIST SERVER CROAKED advisory 8-\ >"Welcome to the XTensionlist@shed.com mailing list!" > >Mr Mikey.. you has my sympathies From afterten@gmail.com Fri Jul 23 15:36:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 28591 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2004 15:36:47 -0000 Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (216.239.56.249) by shed.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2004 15:36:47 -0000 Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id w41so165797cwb for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.99.49 with SMTP id w49mr4519cwb; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:41:54 -0400 From: Dean Davis To: xtensionlist@shed.com In-Reply-To: <20040723143557.23215@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20040723143557.23215@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: Me thinkith... this stinkith X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:36:47 -0000 Well, I'll chime in on the new server to verify that it is working properly. I also go a welcome email from the list server. Dean On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:35:56 -0400, michael wrote: > > Hi John, > > I'm not sure where that subject came from ! > Nor why there is that {Xtensionlist] subject prefix... > And I hope I just rid finally of that Footer ... > > When did you get that message ? > I hope that things will start to get better very soon now !! > > michael > > John said : > > > > >Well.... I taking this as a THE LIST SERVER CROAKED advisory 8-\ > >"Welcome to the XTensionlist@shed.com mailing list!" > > > >Mr Mikey.. you has my sympathies > > From cecil.jones@valmont.com Fri Jul 23 15:40:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 29367 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2004 15:40:23 -0000 Received: from valmail1.valmont.com (HELO valcrpvw.valmont.com) (63.167.107.51) by shed.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2004 15:40:23 -0000 Received: from valmailc.na.valmont.com ([192.168.123.1]) by valcrpvw.valmont.com with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:45:46 -0500 Received: by valmailc.na.valmont.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:45:01 -0500 Message-ID: <98A515E12184F54F912C1C2FE41ECD5505F1312B@valmaila.na.valmont.com> From: "Jones, Cecil R." To: "'xtensionlist@shed.com'" Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:45:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: Me thinkith... this stinkith X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:40:24 -0000 It seem to be working for me as well. Not sure about the subject prefix, it was only on the Welcome email. Cecil The information contained in this E-mail message and the documents accompanying this message are privileged and confidential, and may be protected from disclosure. Please be aware that any use, printing, copying, disclosure or dissemination of this communication may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. If you think that you have received this E-mail message in error, please reply to the sender. For more information about Valmont Industries, Inc., please visit our web site at www.valmont.com From jerry@jerryspond.com Fri Jul 23 15:54:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 31691 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2004 15:54:06 -0000 Received: from mail4.speakeasy.net (216.254.0.204) by shed.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jul 2004 15:54:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 2392 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2004 15:59:16 -0000 Received: from dsl093-192-216.stl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO [192.168.1.6]) (jerryp@[66.93.192.216]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Jul 2004 15:59:16 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) To: xtensionlist@shed.com Message-Id: <3C8DDABA-DCC1-11D8-B521-000A959D1D76@jerryspond.com> From: Jerry Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:59:11 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: X4X X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:54:06 -0000 I just am so happy with the performance and stability of X4X I could just (insert happy expletive here)! Can you guys (Michael & James) explain the reason for so much more speed than the OS 9 version and why powerline commands are qued so much better as well? It seemed that I always seemed to overload the buffer when I'd turn on a string of commands with X49 and I'd get errors but, with X4X things just spool out very smoothly. Jp From andyland@bazookaville.com Fri Jul 23 15:57:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 32292 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2004 15:57:59 -0000 Received: from wellington.concentric.net (HELO wellington.cnchost.com) (207.155.252.14) by shed.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2004 15:57:59 -0000 Received: from [172.16.30.40] ([208.13.94.40]) by wellington.cnchost.com id MAA20577; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 12:03:07 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.17] Errors-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) In-Reply-To: <98A515E12184F54F912C1C2FE41ECD5505F1312B@valmaila.na.valmont.com> References: <98A515E12184F54F912C1C2FE41ECD5505F1312B@valmaila.na.valmont.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Andy Montag Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:03:07 -0500 To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Subject: Houston, do you copy? X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:57:59 -0000 Good to be back on what will hopefully be a trouble free list. Now I know how the astronauts felt when they would experience "Radio Blackout" as they went around the far side of the moon. Andy From mfjlaw@attglobal.net Fri Jul 23 17:08:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 9636 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2004 17:08:51 -0000 Received: from ylpvm29-ext.prodigy.net (HELO ylpvm29.prodigy.net) (207.115.57.60) by shed.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2004 17:08:51 -0000 Received: from darwin2.attglobal.net (adsl-63-197-143-123.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net [63.197.143.123]) i6NHDv0X007237 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:13:57 -0400 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.0.20040723095849.01d13558@pop5.attglobal.net> X-Sender: markj08@pop5.attglobal.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:13:44 -0700 To: xtensionlist@shed.com From: Mark Johannessen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: List message question X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:08:51 -0000 For spam control, I have recently changed my email client to mailblocks.com. That web-based client processes mail by before putting any message into my in box, it either confirms the sender is in an approved address book or issues a challenge/response to the sender so that the sender has to manually respond prior to the message being considered a "good" message (and not spam). I notice that messages I receive from this list have as the senders the individual list members, not xtensionlist@shed.com. The reply address is xtensionlist@shed.com. As least for me, this means I have to approve every address of every sender on the list, otherwise the message is suspect (and that requires me to weed through the spam in a holding directory). Is it worthwhile (i.e. of common interest and not just my problem) to maybe have messages from the list being from "xtensionlist@shed.com"? Mark Johannessen From james@sentman.com Fri Jul 23 17:53:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 17334 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2004 17:53:54 -0000 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (205.152.59.68) by shed.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2004 17:53:54 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.202] ([68.220.56.189]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.netESMTP <20040723175834.FCWJ1721.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[10.0.1.202]> for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:58:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.0.20040723095849.01d13558@pop5.attglobal.net> References: <6.0.1.1.0.20040723095849.01d13558@pop5.attglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: James Sentman Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:58:32 -0400 To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: Re: List message question X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:53:54 -0000 Hi Mark, While I can't be completely sure it appears that mailblocks has a full featured filter system in addition to the challenge response system. It should be possible for you to filter emails based on some alternative header information. If you do a view raw headers for this email you'll find all sorts of extra stuff added by the list processor. The best to filter on would probably be the List-Id: but it may also be possible to filter based on the reply to address, or even on the [XTensionlist] that is now going to be in the subject of every email. actually, Further reading of their support docs suggests you should use what they call a "tracker" email address. This is how they recommend that you subscribe to email lists and the like so that these emails can go directly through to your email in-box without the challenge/response system. So thats what you need to setup. Personally I have no patience for these services. Especially when I do my email support. I'm often a couple of days behind in email support for my own products because of the volume of questions that I receive. If I get a bounce because of one of these services then that person isn't going to be able to get a response from me as there just aren't enough hours in the day for me to go to this trouble for everyone. i also don't like the idea of it sending out a challenge to every email spam address that you get considering that a spam email or a virus email never comes from the address that is used in the From field. It's always and without exception forged. So you're generating more and more bounces and error messages clogging up the system, and even potentially filling people's inboxes with your challenge emails that had nothing to do with sending you the original spam. every so often my own inbox fills with bounce messages or these challenge emails when my email address gets picked at random by a spammer to use as his forged From address. I got almost a thousand such bounce messages just a couple of months ago when this happened the most recent time. I recently installed "SpamSieve" here locally as a plugin for Mail.app (though it works with all the other OSX clients too) and it is a baysean filter that is excellent. For a one time charge of $25 it's working just great. As I was training it made a few mistakes, but in the last 30 days it's filtered over 6k spam/virus/worm emails! I get a huge volume of spam email... Good Luck! James On Jul 23, 2004, at 1:13 PM, Mark Johannessen wrote: > For spam control, I have recently changed my email client to > mailblocks.com. That web-based client processes mail by before > putting any message into my in box, it either confirms the sender is > in an approved address book or issues a challenge/response to the > sender so that the sender has to manually respond prior to the message > being considered a "good" message (and not spam). > > I notice that messages I receive from this list have as the senders > the individual list members, not xtensionlist@shed.com. The reply > address is xtensionlist@shed.com. As least for me, this means I have > to approve every address of every sender on the list, otherwise the > message is suspect (and that requires me to weed through the spam in a > holding directory). > > Is it worthwhile (i.e. of common interest and not just my problem) to > maybe have messages from the list being from "xtensionlist@shed.com"? > > Mark Johannessen > From breed@reflections.com Fri Jul 23 19:37:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 32504 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2004 19:37:01 -0000 Received: from reflections.com (216.162.154.70) by shed.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2004 19:37:01 -0000 Received: from [68.35.221.60] (account breed HELO [192.168.212.210]) by reflections.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 4022034 for xtensionlist@shed.com; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:41:59 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:41:39 -0400 From: Bill Reed To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20040723191324.31715@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Poor List Behavior X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:37:01 -0000 No one ever said it would be easy being a "List Mom". :.0 -bill From JeffreyLomicka@comcast.net Fri Jul 23 19:53:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 2518 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2004 19:53:47 -0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (204.127.198.39) by shed.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2004 19:53:47 -0000 Received: from [172.20.20.176] (hydra.avid.com[198.51.119.130]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2004072319582701500m4c7qe> (Authid: JeffreyLomicka); Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:58:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: JeffreyLomicka@mail.comcast.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:58:21 -0400 To: xtensionlist@shed.com From: Jeffrey Lomicka Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: New list headers and Eudora X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:53:47 -0000 If you want to improve your reading pleasure with Eudora, you can turn off the display of all the new headers. To do this, find the plug-in called "Esoteric Settings" an be sure it is installed. Then in the Special/Settings dialog you can scroll down to "boring headers" and add to the end of the list. I added: List-Subscribe List-Digest List-Unsubscribe List-Id List-Post List-Help List-Archive X-Mailman-Version X-BeenThere X-Virus-Scanned If you don't have the plug-in, do a Get Info on Eduora, and if "Esoteric Settings 6.0" is not in the list of plugins, use the Add... button to add it. (If you ran the Eudora installer, you should be able to find it somewhere on your disk.) If it is in the list and not checked, check it to enable it, and restart Eudora. - Jeff From bob@pitchypaw.com Fri Jul 23 20:43:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 10138 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2004 20:43:09 -0000 Received: from mail02.powweb.com (66.152.97.35) by shed.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2004 20:43:09 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.104] (c-24-17-120-45.client.comcast.net [24.17.120.45]) by mail02.powweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63365DEFDF for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:47:47 -0700 From: Robert Ladle To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.2 (Blindsider) Subject: Moving the cam to X X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:43:09 -0000 This is just a comment about how well the changing of my webcam over to th= e X machine went. Using previous recommendations from the list, I purchased= the USB video capture device (Interview Lite) from = and am using USBVision and ImageCaster software to make it all work on my = iMac-X machine. The camera is an old Cannon camcorder that used to feed the= video directly into the video jack on the 7600. I dumped Oculus and all is= great. I like the camcorder because they can be picked up for $200+ and wi= th the 22x optical zoom I get a good picture of my squirrel feeder 30 ft. a= way. The camera sets on the windowsill in the computer room behind 2 panes = of glass. ImageCaster is very easy to use to set up a web page to feed images to. In = my case, since I already have my SquirrelCam page, I let the program upload= to support it's web page (but I don't show it) and use the pix created in = my page format. Thanks to the listers for the helpful info. (The pix are a little harsh in this blasting afternoon sun.) Due to the heat, the squirrels are all hanging out up in the trees. Seattle= temp is approaching 100=C2=B0 today! :^[ --=20 _ Bob From james@sentman.com Sun Jul 25 15:02:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 6803 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2004 15:02:13 -0000 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (205.152.59.65) by shed.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2004 15:02:13 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.202] ([68.220.56.189]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.08 201-253-122-130-108-20031117) with ESMTP id <20040725150657.PDX8009.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[10.0.1.202]> for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:06:57 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <46B1C7E8-DE4C-11D8-8135-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: XTension XTension List From: James Sentman Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:06:59 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: ignore me please X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:02:14 -0000 sorry, testing the list again From michael@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com Sun Jul 25 15:19:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 9689 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2004 15:19:23 -0000 Received: from ms-smtp-02-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com (HELO ms-smtp-02.tampabay.rr.com) (65.32.5.132) by shed.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2004 15:19:23 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (72.172.8.67.cfl.rr.com [67.8.172.72]) i6PFOXZm009508 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:24:34 -0400 (EDT) From: michael To: Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:24:02 -0400 Message-Id: <20040725152402.10992@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <46B1C7E8-DE4C-11D8-8135-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> References: <46B1C7E8-DE4C-11D8-8135-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail 3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: ignore me please X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:19:23 -0000 James said : >sorry, testing the list again > And ignore me too... nothing new :-) michael From hvaneeden@comcast.net Sun Jul 25 15:41:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 13855 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2004 15:41:52 -0000 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (204.127.202.64) by shed.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2004 15:41:52 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pcp01463659pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net[68.82.80.148]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2004072515463501600oj9jqe> (Authid: hvaneeden); Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:46:35 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:46:35 -0400 From: "Hendrik W. M. van Eeden" To: XTension XTension List Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20040725152402.10992@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ignore me please X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:41:52 -0000 How come my messages send yesterday never showed up? -- Henk > From: michael > Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com > Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:24:02 -0400 > To: > Subject: Re: ignore me please > > > > James said : > >> sorry, testing the list again >> > > And ignore me too... nothing new :-) > > michael > > > From michael@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com Sun Jul 25 15:53:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 15925 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2004 15:53:16 -0000 Received: from ms-smtp-04-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com (HELO ms-smtp-04.tampabay.rr.com) (65.32.5.134) by shed.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2004 15:53:16 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (72.172.8.67.cfl.rr.com [67.8.172.72]) i6PFwR7u022939 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:58:27 -0400 (EDT) From: michael To: Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:57:55 -0400 Message-Id: <20040725155755.29932@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail 3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: ignore me please X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:53:16 -0000 Hendrik said : >How come my messages send yesterday never showed up? WE're still trying to figure that out. Interestingly enough, they did appear along with all the others from yesterday... in the Digest that I forced this morning... I didn't expect this to be painless. But at least we now have control... if only we knew what that means !! :-) michael From hvaneeden@comcast.net Sun Jul 25 20:04:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 21876 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2004 20:04:43 -0000 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (204.127.202.56) by shed.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2004 20:04:43 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pcp01463659pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net[68.82.80.148]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20040725200926012009faqpe> (Authid: hvaneeden); Sun, 25 Jul 2004 20:09:26 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 16:09:25 -0400 From: "Hendrik W. M. van Eeden" To: XTension XTension List Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20040725155755.29932@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ignore me please X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 20:04:43 -0000 -- Henk > From: michael > Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com > Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:57:55 -0400 > To: > Subject: Re: ignore me please > > Hendrik said : >> How come my messages send yesterday never showed up? > > WE're still trying to figure that out. OK > Interestingly enough, they did appear along with all the others > from yesterday... in the Digest that I forced this morning... > > I didn't expect this to be painless. But at least we now have > control... if only we knew what that means !! Are you having fun though? > :-) > michael > > From rekow@rmci.net Mon Jul 26 17:03:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 7134 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2004 17:03:05 -0000 Received: from mailhostb.rmci.net (HELO mx20.rmci.net) (205.162.184.72) by shed.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 2004 17:03:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 4605 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2004 17:07:50 -0000 Received: from cust-ip-216-222-111-189.boi.rmci.net (HELO ?216.222.111.189?) (216.222.111.189) by mailhostb.rmci.net with SMTP; 26 Jul 2004 17:07:50 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <4C6ED280-DF26-11D8-B79E-0003930AC766@rmci.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: xtensionlist@shed.com From: Warren Rekow Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:07:39 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: OT "Bounced" email storm X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:03:05 -0000 AAARGH!! Since about 2 days ago I am being heavily bombarded with "bounced" email messages I never sent, each about 40K in size. Is there a new virus on the rampage? Perhaps my email address has been siezed by an aggressive spammer? Anyone else experiencing this? Warren Rekow From Chuck@wildrice.com Mon Jul 26 18:50:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 691 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2004 18:50:44 -0000 Received: from ns1.wildrice.com (HELO wildrice.com) (66.80.13.2) by shed.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 2004 18:50:44 -0000 Received: from [66.80.13.13] (66.80.13.13) by wildrice.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server X 3.2.4) for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:55:59 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v667) In-Reply-To: <4C6ED280-DF26-11D8-B79E-0003930AC766@rmci.net> References: <4C6ED280-DF26-11D8-B79E-0003930AC766@rmci.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <6E6AC775-DF35-11D8-8489-000A95D09F1C@wildrice.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Rice Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:55:58 -0700 To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.667) Subject: Re: OT "Bounced" email storm X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:50:44 -0000 It is a MyDoom Virus variant. Started about 7:30 this morning for me (west coast). Went from 3 or 4 hundred messages an hour to over 3000 an hour. Grin and bear it. -Chuck- On Jul 26, 2004, at 10:07 AM, Warren Rekow wrote: > AAARGH!! Since about 2 days ago I am being heavily bombarded with > "bounced" email messages I never sent, each about 40K in size. Is > there a new virus on the rampage? Perhaps my email address has been > siezed by an aggressive spammer? Anyone else experiencing this? > Warren Rekow > From apadley@apadley.com Mon Jul 26 18:50:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 770 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2004 18:50:55 -0000 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (HELO mail.cableone.net) (24.116.0.121) by machomeautomation.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 2004 18:50:55 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unverified [24.119.184.158]) by smail1.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.9b) with ESMTP id 10783277 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:45:50 -0700 Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <4C6ED280-DF26-11D8-B79E-0003930AC766@rmci.net> References: <4C6ED280-DF26-11D8-B79E-0003930AC766@rmci.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <73621CDB-DF35-11D8-8B80-0030657E8A38@apadley.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Albert Padley Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:56:06 -0600 To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com Subject: Re: OT "Bounced" email storm X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:50:56 -0000 Yes, I'm seeing this also on several different accounts including ones that have never been spammed! Albert Padley On Jul 26, 2004, at 11:07 AM, Warren Rekow wrote: > AAARGH!! Since about 2 days ago I am being heavily bombarded with > "bounced" email messages I never sent, each about 40K in size. Is > there a new virus on the rampage? Perhaps my email address has been > siezed by an aggressive spammer? Anyone else experiencing this? > Warren Rekow > > > From michael@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com Mon Jul 26 19:04:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 3628 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2004 19:04:00 -0000 Received: from ms-smtp-04-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com (HELO ms-smtp-04.tampabay.rr.com) (65.32.5.134) by shed.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 2004 19:04:00 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (72.172.8.67.cfl.rr.com [67.8.172.72]) i6QJ997u001729 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:09:13 -0400 (EDT) From: michael To: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:08:35 -0400 Message-Id: <20040726190836.24774@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <4C6ED280-DF26-11D8-B79E-0003930AC766@rmci.net> References: <4C6ED280-DF26-11D8-B79E-0003930AC766@rmci.net> X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail 3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: OT "Bounced" email storm X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:04:01 -0000 Warren said : >AAARGH!! Since about 2 days ago I am being heavily bombarded with >"bounced" email messages I never sent, each about 40K in size. Is >there a new virus on the rampage? Perhaps my email address has been >siezed by an aggressive spammer? Anyone else experiencing this? >Warren Rekow > Hello Warren, INDEED... I've been hit by them too. In a 15 minute period earlier, I got 107 of them... all with various subjects, from/to addresses etc. Seems to go in waves :-) michael From rob@whidbey.com Mon Jul 26 19:04:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 3664 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2004 19:04:06 -0000 Received: from mailout.whidbey.net (209.166.64.124) by machomeautomation.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 26 Jul 2004 19:04:06 -0000 Received: from [209.166.75.5] (helo=[209.166.75.5]) by mail2.whidbey.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BpAqC-0003Kj-HU for xtensionlist@shed.com; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:08:52 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <4C6ED280-DF26-11D8-B79E-0003930AC766@rmci.net> References: <4C6ED280-DF26-11D8-B79E-0003930AC766@rmci.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <3C12763D-DF37-11D8-A6F3-00039343B7C0@whidbey.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rob Lewis Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:08:53 -0700 To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: Re: OT "Bounced" email storm X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:04:06 -0000 Just today I've started getting some bounced emails, along with a bunch of "warnings" that my computer has been used to send out lots of spam, probably because it's infected with a "trojaned proxy server" (!), and urging me to open an attached 28K ZIP file to "keep my computer safe". Yeah, and a guy in Nigeria wants to send me millions of dollars, too. What astonishes me is that anybody still falls for this stuff. On Jul 26, 2004, at 10:07 AM, Warren Rekow wrote: > AAARGH!! Since about 2 days ago I am being heavily bombarded with > "bounced" email messages I never sent, each about 40K in size. Is > there a new virus on the rampage? Perhaps my email address has been > siezed by an aggressive spammer? Anyone else experiencing this? > Warren Rekow > From BHusler@PacBell.net Mon Jul 26 19:21:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 7627 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2004 19:21:07 -0000 Received: from fw.billhusler.com (HELO sparky.dmz.BillHusler.com) (209.232.120.227) by machomeautomation.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 2004 19:21:07 -0000 Received: from ([10.71.250.230]) by sparky.BillHusler.com; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [209.228.26.178] (unknown [209.228.26.178]) by BillHusler.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44C5E005C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <4C6ED280-DF26-11D8-B79E-0003930AC766@rmci.net> References: <4C6ED280-DF26-11D8-B79E-0003930AC766@rmci.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <9A78685A-DF39-11D8-B1D7-000D935280B8@PacBell.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bill Husler Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:25:50 -0700 To: Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: Re: OT "Bounced" email storm X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:21:07 -0000 Yes, there is a new variant of the MyDoom virus wrecking havoc across the internet as we speak. For more info on this virus, you could check: Bill On Jul 26, 2004, at 10:07 AM, Warren Rekow wrote: > AAARGH!! Since about 2 days ago I am being heavily bombarded with > "bounced" email messages I never sent, each about 40K in size. Is > there a new virus on the rampage? Perhaps my email address has been > siezed by an aggressive spammer? Anyone else experiencing this? > Warren Rekow > From greg30808@comcast.net Mon Jul 26 19:44:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-XTensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 13391 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2004 19:44:17 -0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (204.127.198.35) by machomeautomation.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 2004 19:44:17 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.102] (pcp431367pcs.thmpsn01.ga.comcast.net[68.47.113.121]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20040726194900013002a21ce>; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:49:00 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Message-Id: To: List of XTension From: Greg Sutherland Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:48:58 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Fwd: Scheduled Event Verbs X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:44:18 -0000 My message never made it to the list so I'm sending it again. Begin forwarded message: From: Greg Sutherland Date: July 24, 2004 11:31:28 PM EDT To: xtensionlist@shed.com Subject: Re: Scheduled Event Verbs It seems that the "remove unit events" also works for removing scheduled executions of global scripts. The word "unit" in the verb fooled me. Am I correct in thinking that it really is a "remove scheduled events" even if the events aren't for a unit? greg On Jul 19, 2004, at 5:54 PM, michael wrote: > > ========================================== > remove unit events: Removes ALL scheduled events for a unit > remove unit events string -- unit name > example : remove unit events "Coffee Pot" > > This verb will remove ALL scheduled events for the device or group. > ========================================== From greg30808@comcast.net Mon Jul 26 19:45:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-XTensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 13872 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2004 19:45:23 -0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (204.127.198.39) by machomeautomation.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 2004 19:45:23 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.102] (pcp431367pcs.thmpsn01.ga.comcast.net[68.47.113.121]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2004072619500701500itv31e>; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:50:07 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Message-Id: To: List of XTension From: Greg Sutherland Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:50:06 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Fwd: ventilation and humidity X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:45:23 -0000 Another one that didn't make it. Begin forwarded message: From: Greg Sutherland Date: July 24, 2004 11:51:28 PM EDT To: List of XTension Subject: ventilation and humidity I'm trying to figure out when it's worth pumping outside air through=20 the house. Several days ago the humidity was 35% and the predicted low was going=20 to be 70, so I figured it was worth turning on my exhaust fan and=20 opening a window. Last night the humidity was 88% and the predicted=20 low was 72 so I didn't think it was worth it. Does anyone have thoughts which might help me come up with a formula=20 for when its worth exhausting the dry, air conditioned 80=BA air in=20 exchange for the cooler outside air? I've thought of doing something like temperature + .1 * humidity < 77=BA,=20= but I really have no clue what would give me the most saving in energy=20= cost and still keep the spouse comfortable. TIA for the thoughts, greg From hvaneeden@comcast.net Mon Jul 26 20:31:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 27311 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2004 20:31:21 -0000 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (204.127.202.56) by machomeautomation.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 2004 20:31:21 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pcp01463659pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net[68.82.80.148]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20040726203607012009ide6e> (Authid: hvaneeden); Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:36:07 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:36:06 -0400 From: "Hendrik W. M. van Eeden" To: XTension XTension List Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: FW: Dimming from a Mini controller X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:31:21 -0000 This message never made it to the list, although Michael tells me it made i= t to the digest. Any way, did anyone else noticed this behavior of the hand held controller? --=20 Henk > ------ Forwarded Message > From: Hendrik W. M. van Eeden > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:03:04 -0400 > To: XTension XTension List > Subject: Dimming from a Mini controller >=20 > Hi Michael and James, >=20 > I noticed something quirky and I don=B9t know if it supposed to work or not= . > When I send a unit ON command from the handheld controller, model HR12A, = The > unit comes on to its preset value. Then if I push the brighten or dim bu= ttons > the controller only send a dim or brighten commend to address F1. The ho= use > code on the controller is set to F and it does not matter which unit code= I > sent first. I thought that in the older versions this worked. I am usin= g a > G4 upgraded to 1.2MHz Xtension version 5.1.3 build 380 and a W800 and a L= ynx > PLC. Can you confirm this? > --=20 > Henk ------ End of Forwarded Message From hvaneeden@comcast.net Tue Jul 27 14:07:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 9045 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2004 14:07:17 -0000 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (204.127.202.56) by shed.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2004 14:07:17 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pcp01463659pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net[68.82.80.148]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20040727141204012009d6qpe> (Authid: hvaneeden); Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:12:04 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:12:03 -0400 From: "Hendrik W. M. van Eeden" To: XTension XTension List Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Invoking Attachments X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:07:17 -0000 Hello All, I have a unit that does nothing but turn ON then OFF every 15 minutes. The are no ON or OFF scripts. Every time this unit turns ON or OFF it invokes the attachment script. I don=B9t know why this would be happening. It is annoying because the computer speaks =B3Attachments Invoked=B2 every time it happens. I can run off the speaking, but at times I want to know when it i= s happening, just not under these conditions. Does any one have any idea why this unit causes the attachment script to run? --=20 Henk From james@sentman.com Tue Jul 27 14:22:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 11747 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2004 14:22:28 -0000 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (205.152.59.71) by shed.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2004 14:22:28 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.202] ([68.220.56.189]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.netESMTP <20040727142715.NLWF1787.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[10.0.1.202]> for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:27:15 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: <11AE6B75-DFD9-11D8-8135-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: James Sentman Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:27:20 -0400 To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: Re: Invoking Attachments X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:22:28 -0000 On Jul 27, 2004, at 10:12 AM, Hendrik W. M. van Eeden wrote: > Hello All, > > I have a unit that does nothing but turn ON then OFF every 15 minutes.=20= > The > are no ON or OFF scripts. Every time this unit turns ON or OFF it=20 > invokes > the attachment script. I don=92t know why this would be happening. It = is > annoying because the computer speaks =93Attachments Invoked=94 every = time=20 > it > happens. I can run off the speaking, but at times I want to know when=20= > it is > happening, just not under these conditions. Does any one have any=20 > idea why > this unit causes the attachment script to run? > If there is an on or off script, but there is no executable code in it=20= then the system will execute any code in the attachments that isn't=20 inside of a handler. generally you wouldn't have any code in the attachments that isn't in a=20= handler, cause it won't do you any good there :) I'm guessing that you=20= have a script for that unit which is either a real script, but from=20 which you've deleted the text rather than deleted the script from the=20 delete button, or you've commented it all out. Thats what causes it. James From hvaneeden@comcast.net Tue Jul 27 14:32:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 14329 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2004 14:32:24 -0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (204.127.198.35) by shed.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2004 14:32:24 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pcp01463659pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net[68.82.80.148]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <200407271437100130025ol5e> (Authid: hvaneeden); Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:37:10 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:37:08 -0400 From: "Hendrik W. M. van Eeden" To: XTension XTension List Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <11AE6B75-DFD9-11D8-8135-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Invoking Attachments X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:32:24 -0000 > From: James Sentman > Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:27:20 -0400 > To: xtensionlist@shed.com > Subject: Re: Invoking Attachments > > generally you wouldn't have any code in the attachments that isn't in a > handler, cause it won't do you any good there :) I'm guessing that you > have a script for that unit which is either a real script, but from > which you've deleted the text rather than deleted the script from the > delete button, or you've commented it all out. > > Thats what causes it. > James Hey James, You are good!!!!:-) and correct. The one line On and OFF script were commented out. Thanks. -- Henk From DougK@mail.mac.com Tue Jul 27 14:44:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 16931 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2004 14:44:57 -0000 Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (17.254.13.23) by shed.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 27 Jul 2004 14:44:57 -0000 Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (a17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out4.apple.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6REpGM6012252 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 07:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay3.apple.com (relay3.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 07:49:44 -0700 Received: from [17.205.41.105] (korns1.apple.com [17.205.41.105]) by relay3.apple.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i6REngmE006432 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 07:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200407271449.i6REngmE006432@relay3.apple.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 07:49:42 -0700 x-sender: DougK@Mail.Mac.Com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Doug Korns To: "XTension Discussion" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Invoking Attachments X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:45:00 -0000 >I have a unit that does nothing but turn ON then OFF every 15 minutes. Th= e >are no ON or OFF scripts. Every time this unit turns ON or OFF it invokes >the attachment script. I don=B9t know why this would be happening. It is >annoying because the computer speaks =B3Attachments Invoked=B2 every time = it >happens. I can run off the speaking, but at times I want to know when it = is >happening, just not under these conditions. Does any one have any idea wh= y >this unit causes the attachment script to run? > I published an example of my (now old) Attachments script a long time ago at: http://members.aol.com/dougk/attachmentsdescr.html The first statement is: speak "Attachments invoked" Perhaps, you incorporated this statement into your attachments. This is the only statement outside of the other handlers in the script file, so it becomes part of an inplicit run handler. As the comment says, this one statement would be invoked if Run was chosen while the scrip was being edited, just so it would do something. It would also tell you if the script was invoked via an AppleScript 'run script' at any other time. This sounds [ :-) ] like what you are experiencing. If you had any other loose AppleScript statements (e.g. toggle the noted unit) in the Attachments script, they would be also be executed as part of the implicit run handler. Presumably then, what is happening to you is that your whole Attachments script is being invoked, rather than an individual handler. My experience with XTension is that it does not do an 'execute script "Attachments" ' every 15 minutes, so I'd suspect you have some accidental logic doing this. The most obvious method would be a periodic scheduled event, run every 15 minutes, that does 'execute script "Attachments" '. If this is not the case then I'd examine your scheduled events for some other event that triggers every 15 minutes and results in that as a side effect. HTH, Doug Korns Let us know what you find. From michael@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com Tue Jul 27 14:57:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 20392 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2004 14:57:35 -0000 Received: from ms-smtp-05-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com (HELO ms-smtp-05.tampabay.rr.com) (65.32.5.135) by machomeautomation.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2004 14:57:35 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (72.172.8.67.cfl.rr.com [67.8.172.72]) i6RF2nCF022179 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:02:50 -0400 (EDT) From: michael To: Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:02:16 -0400 Message-Id: <20040727150217.21841@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <20040725155755.29932@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> References: <20040725155755.29932@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail 3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: List Problems X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:57:35 -0000 Hi Folks, Well we're learning how to wrangle this list server (Mailman), and maybe this morning we found something new to watch for.... ( ears closed.... "PERMISSIONS".... %$#@&^%$ ) grrrrr Ok so now I have to continually watch the logs of the server and look for any of these errors ... James has made a nice script for me that makes it easier to see them, and now if only I learn to interpret what I'm seeing :-) What is really 'funny' is that now the digest subscribers are getting better service than the 'raw' list subscribers :-) funny ... like 'no-see-ums' :-) michael From elkaplan@comcast.net Tue Jul 27 15:04:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 21912 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2004 15:04:14 -0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (204.127.198.35) by shed.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2004 15:04:14 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (c-24-11-207-150.client.comcast.net[24.11.207.150]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20040727150902013002fs7ce>; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:09:02 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <200407271449.i6REngmE006432@relay3.apple.com> References: <200407271449.i6REngmE006432@relay3.apple.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Evan L. Kaplan Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:08:58 -0400 To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: OT: Problems with font size and new LCD display X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:04:15 -0000 Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could help me concerning small font size/text in OS 10.3.4. I just upgraded my monitor to a 19" LCD display. I am running a B&W G3 (w/ original video card; Radeon 7000?) and I have the Display preferences set at 1280 X 1024 resolution and 60.0 H refresh rate. At these settings the text is very small and although I was able to fix that in most apps (changing the minimum font size), I don't know how to do it in 10.3.4 e-mail and a few other apps. The text size for my e-mails is so small that I actually have to move about a foot closer to the display than I normally do. Is there a way to make the text size bigger w/o changing the text quality (i.e. I can change the resolution and make the text bigger, but it also makes the text fuzzy)? Thanks for any suggestions, Evan From JeffreyLomicka@comcast.net Tue Jul 27 15:08:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 23171 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2004 15:08:22 -0000 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (204.127.202.56) by shed.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2004 15:08:22 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.200] (hydra.avid.com[198.51.119.130]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20040727151309012008mk2ee> (Authid: JeffreyLomicka); Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:13:09 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: JeffreyLomicka@mail.comcast.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <200407271449.i6REngmE006432@relay3.apple.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:13:04 -0400 To: xtensionlist@shed.com From: Jeffrey Lomicka Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: Re: OT: Problems with font size and new LCD display X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:08:22 -0000 To make it less fuzzy, got into Appearance preferences and change the value of "Turn off text smoothing for font sizes" to the largest number there, 12. Also change the smoothing style to "Flat panel", or maybe just "Light". >Hi everyone, > >I was wondering if anyone could help me concerning small font >size/text in OS 10.3.4. I just upgraded my monitor to a 19" LCD >display. I am running a B&W G3 (w/ original video card; Radeon >7000?) and I have the Display preferences set at 1280 X 1024 >resolution and 60.0 H refresh rate. At these settings the text is >very small and although I was able to fix that in most apps >(changing the minimum font size), I don't know how to do it in >10.3.4 e-mail and a few other apps. The text size for my e-mails is >so small that I actually have to move about a foot closer to the >display than I normally do. Is there a way to make the text size >bigger w/o changing the text quality (i.e. I can change the >resolution and make the text bigger, but it also makes the text >fuzzy)? > >Thanks for any suggestions, > >Evan From hvaneeden@comcast.net Tue Jul 27 15:09:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 23386 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2004 15:09:19 -0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (204.127.198.35) by shed.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2004 15:09:19 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pcp01463659pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net[68.82.80.148]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20040727151406013002gnute> (Authid: hvaneeden); Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:14:06 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:14:05 -0400 From: "Hendrik W. M. van Eeden" To: XTension XTension List Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200407271449.i6REngmE006432@relay3.apple.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Invoking Attachments X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:09:19 -0000 Hi Doug, James in his earlier reply hit the nail on the head. A CP290 turns ON and then OFF a heartbeat. The On and OFF script used to speak "Heartbeat ON and then OFF" every time the unit was toggled. So at the times there was an executable statement in the script and that was all I heard. Well I got tiered of that so I commented out that line in the ON and OFF scripts. Then I started hearing the 'Attachment invoked" coming out of the speaker. James explained why that is happening. So. I deleted the On and OFF scripts and everything is quite now. -- Henk > From: Doug Korns > Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 07:49:42 -0700 > To: "XTension Discussion" > Subject: Re: Invoking Attachments > > HTH, > Doug Korns > > Let us know what you find. From michael@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com Tue Jul 27 15:16:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 24700 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2004 15:16:20 -0000 Received: from ms-smtp-05-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com (HELO ms-smtp-05.tampabay.rr.com) (65.32.5.135) by shed.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2004 15:16:20 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (72.172.8.67.cfl.rr.com [67.8.172.72]) i6RFLZCF005706 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:21:36 -0400 (EDT) From: michael To: Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:21:02 -0400 Message-Id: <20040727152102.6929@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail 3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Fwd: Scheduled Event Verbs X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:16:21 -0000 (maybe a repeat) Greg said : >It seems that the "remove unit events" also works for removing >scheduled executions of global scripts. The word "unit" in the verb >fooled me. Am I correct in thinking that it really is a "remove >scheduled events" even if the events aren't for a unit? greg Hi Greg, The document is wrong ! Where it says that the verbs will only remove 'unit' events, it should say that they will also remove 'script' events. I'll have it changed :-) michael From michael@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com Tue Jul 27 21:31:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 13080 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2004 21:31:19 -0000 Received: from ms-smtp-05-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com (HELO ms-smtp-05.tampabay.rr.com) (65.32.5.135) by shed.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2004 21:31:19 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (72.172.8.67.cfl.rr.com [67.8.172.72]) i6RLaZCF001862 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:36:36 -0400 (EDT) From: michael To: Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:36:02 -0400 Message-Id: <20040727213602.14164@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <20040727152102.6929@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> References: <20040727152102.6929@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail 3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Video Graphic Views X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:31:20 -0000 Question to all of you who are using X4X : How many of you are using the new feature of 'live video' for view backgrounds ? maybe it's taking up too much room in the app ? michael From markfn@commvault.com Tue Jul 27 21:41:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 15290 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2004 21:41:08 -0000 Received: from cvnet.commvault.com (HELO commvault.com) (208.253.164.3) by shed.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2004 21:41:08 -0000 Received: from commvault.com by commvault.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA13062; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:46:23 -0400 Message-ID: <4106CD31.6020609@commvault.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:46:25 -0400 From: "Mark F. Nettleingham" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xtensionlist@shed.com References: <20040727152102.6929@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> <20040727213602.14164@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <20040727213602.14164@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Video Graphic Views X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:41:08 -0000 michael, While I'm not using the 'live video' currently. I am planning to use it later. There are just to many things to do. michael wrote: >Question to all of you who are using X4X : > >How many of you are using the new feature of 'live video' >for view backgrounds ? > >maybe it's taking up too much room in the app ? > >michael > > > > > > -- Mark F. Nettleingham (732) 870-4635 markfn@commvault.com From jsward@gate.net Tue Jul 27 22:48:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 28690 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2004 22:48:11 -0000 Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (207.69.200.60) by machomeautomation.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2004 22:48:11 -0000 Received: from [192.168.167.39] (helo=wamui01.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1Bpap7-0006G7-00 for xtensionlist@shed.com; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:53:29 -0400 Message-ID: <24647231.1090968809462.JavaMail.root@wamui01.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:53:28 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: jsward@gate.net To: xtensionlist@shed.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Subject: List Problems X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jsward@gate.net, xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:48:11 -0000 My netscape browser crashed about the time the list mentioned the email storms. I get my email through netscape browser, and my emails, settings, everthing disappeared. I set it up again and imported my inbox, etc. and everthing came back, however I cannot send and email ( I can receive) I can't reply or forward. I get a popup saying "An error occurred while creating a message compose window. Please try again." I tried to set up a new profile, but it wouldn't import my address book. I don't know if it was because of the crash or a virus or it crashed because of a virus. Has anybody else had this problem? Has anybody ever gotten real help from Netscape? This is so frustrating I am getting hives. I have other profiles and the email works fine, but they can't find my address book to import it. It appears it is not netscape just that profile that crashed. From rob@ebersol.com Wed Jul 28 12:42:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 29688 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2004 12:42:34 -0000 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (205.152.59.64) by machomeautomation.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2004 12:42:34 -0000 Received: from [192.168.2.13] ([68.153.147.173]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.netESMTP <20040728124724.MEFE1721.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[192.168.2.13]> for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:47:24 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <45DC65DB-E094-11D8-AEF8-000A95AFD182@ebersol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Xtension list From: Rob Ebersol Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:47:23 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: free: 604e upgrade card for 7600 X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:42:35 -0000 I'd rather send this to somebody than throw it out. If you're interested in a free upgrade, email me. thanks, rob ----------------------------- Ebersol Inc. t 404.6878889 f 404.3733886 734 Clairemont Ave. Decatur, GA 30030 ----------------------------- From john@customer1st.com Wed Jul 28 14:05:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 12678 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2004 14:05:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.customer1st.com) (216.17.88.37) by shed.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2004 14:05:42 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.173] by mail.customer1st.com (Post.Office MTA v3.6 release 101 ID# 1001-56150U100L10S0V36) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:11:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <20040727213602.14164@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> References: <20040727152102.6929@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> <20040727213602.14164@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> Message-Id: From: john@customer1st.com (John Sievert) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:10:56 -0500 To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Video Graphic Views X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:05:43 -0000 I don't use it yet, but want to. Why is a problem how much space it takes up or does it just offend your=20= engineering sensibilities? ;-) J -- =93Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss=20= of enthusiasm.=94 - Sir Winston Churchill John Sievert Customer 1st, Inc. 2950 Metro Drive, #101 Mpls, MN 55425 952.851.7901 office 952.851.7907 fax This email and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged.=20= This email is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. =20 If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying=20 of this email and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you=20 receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by=20 reply email and destroy the message and its attachments. On Jul 27, 2004, at 4:36 PM, michael wrote: > > Question to all of you who are using X4X : > > How many of you are using the new feature of 'live video' > for view backgrounds ? > > maybe it's taking up too much room in the app ? > > michael > > From BHusler@PacBell.net Wed Jul 28 14:12:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 14121 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2004 14:12:14 -0000 Received: from fw.billhusler.com (HELO sparky.dmz.BillHusler.com) (209.232.120.227) by shed.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2004 14:12:14 -0000 Received: from ([10.71.250.230]) by sparky.BillHusler.com; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.7] (pbg417.internal.billhusler.com [10.0.1.7]) by BillHusler.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C22E0DA7 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <4C6ED280-DF26-11D8-B79E-0003930AC766@rmci.net> References: <4C6ED280-DF26-11D8-B79E-0003930AC766@rmci.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bill Husler Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:16:59 -0700 To: Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: Scripted Serial I/O under X X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:12:14 -0000 Hey Everyone, The only thing I have left under OS9 is my Davis Weatherstation. Currently, I pull the data from it just using some Applescripts and Communications Toolbox. I would really like to retire that box, but I don't know how to access the serial ports from a script (applescript or shell script ...) and feed it to XTension in OS X. Any hints? Bill ps. Sorry if you get dups - the new server doesn't seem to like me much. From rob@whidbey.com Wed Jul 28 14:47:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 20894 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2004 14:47:38 -0000 Received: from mailout.whidbey.net (209.166.64.124) by shed.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Jul 2004 14:47:38 -0000 Received: from [209.166.75.5] (helo=[209.166.75.5]) by mail1.whidbey.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BppnA-0000ae-B9 for xtensionlist@shed.com; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:52:28 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <45DC65DB-E094-11D8-AEF8-000A95AFD182@ebersol.com> References: <45DC65DB-E094-11D8-AEF8-000A95AFD182@ebersol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rob Lewis Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:52:31 -0700 To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: Re: free: 604e upgrade card for 7600 X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:47:38 -0000 I've already got a 200 MHz 604e card in my 7600. Thanks anyway, --RL On Jul 28, 2004, at 5:47 AM, Rob Ebersol wrote: > I'd rather send this to somebody than throw it out. > If you're interested in a free upgrade, email me. > > thanks, > rob > > ----------------------------- > Ebersol Inc. > t 404.6878889 > f 404.3733886 > 734 Clairemont Ave. > Decatur, GA 30030 > ----------------------------- > From james@sentman.com Wed Jul 28 14:53:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 22968 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2004 14:53:31 -0000 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (205.152.59.73) by shed.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2004 14:53:31 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.202] ([68.220.56.189]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.netESMTP <20040728145618.IAOU1789.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[10.0.1.202]> for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:56:18 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: References: <20040727152102.6929@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> <20040727213602.14164@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <4B528A3A-E0A6-11D8-8135-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: James Sentman Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:56:24 -0400 To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: Re: Video Graphic Views X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:53:32 -0000 On Jul 28, 2004, at 10:10 AM, John Sievert wrote: > I don't use it yet, but want to. > > Why is a problem how much space it takes up or does it just offend > your engineering sensibilities? ;-) > I think he's referring to the fact that we put a LOT of effort into getting it to work so well and nobody but us is using it :) You all need to swoon and carry on a bit over how absolutely fantastic and unprecedented a feature it is and we'll feel better :D -James From james@sentman.com Wed Jul 28 14:58:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 24359 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2004 14:58:41 -0000 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (205.152.59.73) by machomeautomation.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2004 14:58:41 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.202] ([68.220.56.189]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.netESMTP <20040728150048.IFIP1789.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[10.0.1.202]> for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:00:48 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: References: <4C6ED280-DF26-11D8-B79E-0003930AC766@rmci.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: James Sentman Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:00:53 -0400 To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: Re: Scripted Serial I/O under X X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:58:41 -0000 On Jul 28, 2004, at 10:16 AM, Bill Husler wrote: > Hey Everyone, > The only thing I have left under OS9 is my Davis Weatherstation. > Currently, I pull the data from it just using some Applescripts and > Communications Toolbox. I would really like to retire that box, but I > don't know how to access the serial ports from a script (applescript > or shell script ...) and feed it to XTension in OS X. Any hints? > Bill > ps. Sorry if you get dups - the new server doesn't seem to like me > much. > > > Hi Bill, we'll definitely forgive dups at this point on the list. The only thing I can say is that at least these are teething troubles of a new list rather than the death throws of the old one. I just can't believe this stuff is so complicated! We're joining the mailman support lists today to ask some specific questions, perhaps we'll even be able to sort it out at some point in the future. As far as the serial port, there is at least 1 such OSX app. If I remember correctly it's called PortTerm. Give that a google and see if you can find it. Let the list know if that works for you or not. If it doesn't quite meet the needs then there might be something I can throw together from some almost completed projects around here in the short term. Thanks, James From jerry@jerryspond.com Wed Jul 28 15:00:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 24829 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2004 15:00:09 -0000 Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (216.254.0.206) by shed.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Jul 2004 15:00:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 18800 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2004 15:05:28 -0000 Received: from dsl093-192-216.stl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO [192.168.1.6]) (jerryp@[66.93.192.216]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Jul 2004 15:05:27 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <4B528A3A-E0A6-11D8-8135-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> References: <20040727152102.6929@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> <20040727213602.14164@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> <4B528A3A-E0A6-11D8-8135-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <8A056F28-E0A7-11D8-9027-000A959D1D76@jerryspond.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jerry Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:05:18 -0500 To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: Re: Video Graphic Views X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:00:09 -0000 At the risk of sounding ungrateful, maybe I just don't understand it's use? Can you do anything with the image besides just view a camera? Maybe you can outline the uses for us and we'll all have an epiphany? Jp On Jul 28, 2004, at 9:56 AM, James Sentman wrote: > I think he's referring to the fact that we put a LOT of effort into > getting it to work so well and nobody but us is using it :) > > You all need to swoon and carry on a bit over how absolutely fantastic > and unprecedented a feature it is and we'll feel better :D > > -James From james@sentman.com Wed Jul 28 15:22:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 32126 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2004 15:22:04 -0000 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (205.152.59.73) by shed.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2004 15:22:04 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.202] ([68.220.56.189]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.netESMTP <20040728152654.IZLY1789.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[10.0.1.202]> for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:26:54 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <8A056F28-E0A7-11D8-9027-000A959D1D76@jerryspond.com> References: <20040727152102.6929@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> <20040727213602.14164@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> <4B528A3A-E0A6-11D8-8135-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> <8A056F28-E0A7-11D8-9027-000A959D1D76@jerryspond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <91E37426-E0AA-11D8-8135-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: James Sentman Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:27:00 -0400 To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: Re: Video Graphic Views X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:22:05 -0000 On Jul 28, 2004, at 11:05 AM, Jerry wrote: > At the risk of sounding ungrateful, maybe I just don't understand it's > use? > > Can you do anything with the image besides just view a camera? Maybe > you can outline the uses for us and we'll all have an epiphany? > Ummm, yes. It's a full featured view, with a live video background. Meaning you can put any icons or text over it and update them in real time. Place an empty unit icon over the real lamp it's controlling, click it and see the real lamp turn on in real time behind it. Stuff like that :) Also overlay text. Put the text list of the last 3 times the motion sensor of the door was activated over the live picture of the door now. Click an icon to run a script in a unit that opens up saved pictures taken when motion was last seen there. The possibilities are endless :) Capture a series of images in response to a motion hit. I'm doing this now with my cameras. Saves off images and then every night I concatenate them into movies and upload to my website, creates things like: http://www.sentman.com/movies/decklapse.mov Create a view that is a page of thumbnails of your other views, click to open the one you want to see. Save off the view of the camera with any other icon or text data that you want as regularly as you want (mine are saved off every minute) and have them available to the web. All sorts of fun stuff ehe? Those all require some scripting behind the scenes, but just the few things i've been thinking of as of late. James > Jp > > On Jul 28, 2004, at 9:56 AM, James Sentman wrote: > >> I think he's referring to the fact that we put a LOT of effort into >> getting it to work so well and nobody but us is using it :) >> >> You all need to swoon and carry on a bit over how absolutely >> fantastic and unprecedented a feature it is and we'll feel better :D >> >> -James > From john@customer1st.com Wed Jul 28 15:31:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 2442 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2004 15:31:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.customer1st.com) (216.17.88.37) by shed.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2004 15:31:42 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.173] by mail.customer1st.com (Post.Office MTA v3.6 release 101 ID# 1001-56150U100L10S0V36) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:37:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <4B528A3A-E0A6-11D8-8135-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> References: <20040727152102.6929@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> <20040727213602.14164@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> <4B528A3A-E0A6-11D8-8135-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> Message-Id: From: john@customer1st.com (John Sievert) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:36:57 -0500 To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Video Graphic Views X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:31:42 -0000 This is so insanely great, unbelievably cool feature it is totally unreal. Not only that, but I assume it will improve my sex life, rid me of dandruff and get all the politcal BS out of my face until November. (Did that work?). J -- "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice Doggie' until you can find a rock." - Will Rogers John Sievert Customer 1st, Inc. 2950 Metro Drive, Suite 101 Mpls, MN 55425 952.851.7901 office 952.851.7907 fax This email and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. This email is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and destroy the message and its attachments. On Jul 28, 2004, at 9:56 AM, James Sentman wrote: > > On Jul 28, 2004, at 10:10 AM, John Sievert wrote: > >> I don't use it yet, but want to. >> >> Why is a problem how much space it takes up or does it just offend >> your engineering sensibilities? ;-) >> > > I think he's referring to the fact that we put a LOT of effort into > getting it to work so well and nobody but us is using it :) > > You all need to swoon and carry on a bit over how absolutely fantastic > and unprecedented a feature it is and we'll feel better :D > > -James > From jasony@cox-internet.com Wed Jul 28 15:33:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 2621 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2004 15:33:26 -0000 Received: from fe5-cox.cox-internet.com (HELO fe5.cox-internet.com) (66.76.2.50) by machomeautomation.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2004 15:33:26 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([208.180.129.66]) by fe5.cox-internet.com 2c0225210a073aa8d80c3b96b8e7ebaa) with ESMTP id <20040728153815.LMDN370.fe5@[208.180.129.66]> for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:38:15 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) In-Reply-To: <91E37426-E0AA-11D8-8135-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> References: <20040727152102.6929@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> <20040727213602.14164@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> <4B528A3A-E0A6-11D8-8135-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> <8A056F28-E0A7-11D8-9027-000A959D1D76@jerryspond.com> <91E37426-E0AA-11D8-8135-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <23DD3152-E0AC-11D8-B9E3-000A957398D2@cox-internet.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: jasony Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:38:14 -0500 To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Subject: Re: Video Graphic Views X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:33:26 -0000 This stuff all sounds awesome. I'm currently not running X4X as I don't have a disposable OS X machine (yet). But when I do, I'll use this for sure. Thanks for all the hard work. Jason On Jul 28, 2004, at 10:27 AM, James Sentman wrote: > > On Jul 28, 2004, at 11:05 AM, Jerry wrote: > >> At the risk of sounding ungrateful, maybe I just don't understand >> it's use? >> >> Can you do anything with the image besides just view a camera? Maybe >> you can outline the uses for us and we'll all have an epiphany? >> >> > > Ummm, yes. It's a full featured view, with a live video background. > > Meaning you can put any icons or text over it and update them in real > time. Place an empty unit icon over the real lamp it's controlling, > click it and see the real lamp turn on in real time behind it. > > Stuff like that :) > > Also overlay text. Put the text list of the last 3 times the motion > sensor of the door was activated over the live picture of the door > now. Click an icon to run a script in a unit that opens up saved > pictures taken when motion was last seen there. The possibilities are > endless :) > > Capture a series of images in response to a motion hit. > I'm doing this now with my cameras. Saves off images and then every > night I concatenate them into movies and upload to my website, creates > things like: > > http://www.sentman.com/movies/decklapse.mov > > Create a view that is a page of thumbnails of your other views, click > to open the one you want to see. > > Save off the view of the camera with any other icon or text data that > you want as regularly as you want (mine are saved off every minute) > and have them available to the web. > > All sorts of fun stuff ehe? Those all require some scripting behind > the scenes, but just the few things i've been thinking of as of late. > > > > James > > >> Jp >> >> On Jul 28, 2004, at 9:56 AM, James Sentman wrote: >> >>> I think he's referring to the fact that we put a LOT of effort into >>> getting it to work so well and nobody but us is using it :) >>> >>> You all need to swoon and carry on a bit over how absolutely >>> fantastic and unprecedented a feature it is and we'll feel better :D >>> >>> -James >> > From patrick.blaya@wanadoo.fr Thu Jul 29 12:18:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 7861 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2004 12:18:39 -0000 Received: from smtp6.wanadoo.fr (HELO mwinf0604.wanadoo.fr) (193.252.22.25) by shed.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2004 12:18:39 -0000 Received: from [10.0.0.6] (AToulouse-152-1-51-88.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.125.129.88]) by mwinf0604.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6396E2800328 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:23:30 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:23:28 +0200 From: Patrick Blaya To: "xtensionlist@shed.com" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Steve's RealBasic interface to Xtension X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:18:39 -0000 Hello List, I am trying to use this nice RealBasic class that Steve wrote long time ago and which I tested and worket great under OS9 (to interface a Weeder digital board with Xtension). It does not seem to work anymore with X4X, is there a reason why ? I thought the structure of AppleEvents it uses would remain the same on the X4X side, but I might be wrong... Thanks for letting me know ! Patrick From hvaneeden@comcast.net Thu Jul 29 12:46:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 11899 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2004 12:46:00 -0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (204.127.198.35) by machomeautomation.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2004 12:46:00 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pcp01463659pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net[68.82.80.148]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20040729125049013003eaf4e> (Authid: hvaneeden); Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:50:49 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:50:48 -0400 From: "Hendrik W. M. van Eeden" To: XTension List Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: FW: Live Video Views X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:46:00 -0000 This did not make it to the list yet, so it may be a duplicate. --=20 Henk > ------ Forwarded Message > From: Hendrik W. M. van Eeden > Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:48:00 -0400 > To: XTension XTension List > Subject: Live Video Views >=20 > I had investigated the view with JPEG files but not with live video until= this > afternoon. I like it a lot but the camera that I am using is not good i= n low > light. It is an X-10 with a sender unit and a remote. Also the view is > rather small, about 2=B2 by 3=B2. Is there a way to enlarge that? I looked = in > the archives, but was unable to see anything that addresses that. > --=20 > Henk ------ End of Forwarded Message From michael@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com Thu Jul 29 12:55:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 13706 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2004 12:55:07 -0000 Received: from ms-smtp-04-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com (HELO ms-smtp-04.tampabay.rr.com) (65.32.5.134) by shed.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2004 12:55:07 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (72.172.8.67.cfl.rr.com [67.8.172.72]) i6TD0O7u002867 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:00:26 -0400 (EDT) From: michael To: Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:59:50 -0400 Message-Id: <20040729125950.17321@smtp-server.cfl.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <200407281123.i6SBN5Bg013115@flmx01.mgw.rr.com> References: <200407281123.i6SBN5Bg013115@flmx01.mgw.rr.com> X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail 3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Halloween revisited X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:55:08 -0000 Hello Brad, VERY nice.... I notice also that you validated the links. That is a big job and certainly makes a great collection for this group. thank you ! michael xtensionlist-request@shed.com said : >About a month ago I had posted a link to a large number of Halloween projects >many people on this list may be interested in. At the time, it appeared the >link had gone down. > >It looks like the list is back up again. >Lots of good projects if you scroll through it. Some neat animatronic ones, >too. >Take a look and see if it works for you. > >http://markbutler.8m.com/monsterlist.htm From john@netmac.net Thu Jul 29 13:12:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 16702 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2004 13:12:34 -0000 Received: from da001d3262.dal-tx.osd.concentric.net (HELO MAIL.NETMAC.NET) (66.89.150.195) by shed.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2004 13:12:34 -0000 Received: from [66.89.150.200] (66.89.150.200) by MAIL.NETMAC.NET with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.1 demo) for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:56:25 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <1121062438-41723345@MAIL.NETMAC.NET> References: <1121062438-41723345@MAIL.NETMAC.NET> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Eriksen Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:58:40 -0400 To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: Re: live video X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:12:34 -0000 DON'T YOU DARE... Leave it RIGHT THERE Mr Mikey Make it BIGGER... (way) This is EXACTLY what I want... Workin on something for it right now... Film at 11 From james@sentman.com Thu Jul 29 14:01:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 26911 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2004 14:01:10 -0000 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (205.152.59.68) by machomeautomation.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2004 14:01:10 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.202] ([68.220.57.94]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net ESMTP <20040729140601.JUOT1721.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[10.0.1.202]> for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:06:01 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <6F2695B9-E168-11D8-8135-000393A33AF8@sentman.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: James Sentman Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:06:06 -0400 To: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: Re: Steve's RealBasic interface to Xtension X-BeenThere: xtensionlist@shed.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtensionlist@shed.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:01:15 -0000 On Jul 29, 2004, at 8:23 AM, Patrick Blaya wrote: > Hello List, > > I am trying to use this nice RealBasic class that Steve wrote long > time ago > and which I tested and worket great under OS9 (to interface a Weeder > digital > board with Xtension). > It does not seem to work anymore with X4X, is there a reason why ? I > thought > the structure of AppleEvents it uses would remain the same on the X4X > side, > but I might be wrong... > Hi Patrick, I remember looking at these things, I think I might even have used them for that old light show program I did which just generated random dims. But it was so long ago I can't remember exactly how they worked. The apple event dictionary is the same for X4X and those should still work. If I remember though, there was some targeting built into them so that theoretically they would run on a remote machine. This rarely worked on OS9 and completely doesn't work on OSX. You'll need to alter the code so that it just creates regular old apple events via the newAppleEvent command and doesn't try to use the AppleEventTarget object anymore. 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Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo From james@sentman.com Thu Jul 29 14:06:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: 1-xtensionlist@shed.com Received: (qmail 28943 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2004 14:06:17 -0000 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (205.152.59.68) by shed.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2004 14:06:17 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.202] ([68.220.57.94]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net ESMTP <20040729141045.JXYM1721.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[10.0.1.202]> for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:10:45 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: References: